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Branksome Park, Canford Cliffs & District December Agenda
Branksome Park, Canford Cliffs & District Residents’ Association Founded 1958
AGENDA
For meeting at St Aldhelms Meeting Room, Wednesday 13th December 2017 at 7.30pm
(access via Lindsay Road)
- Welcome and Apologies.
- Minutes of November meeting.
- Matters Arising.
- Beach Road Car Park.
- Dangerous footpaths
- Planning Applications.
- Accounts to date.
- AOB.
The meeting will be followed by Seasonal Refreshments and everyone
is invited to stay on for this.
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ROBERT REID
MINUTES OF MONTHLY MEETING HELD WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 2017
Branksome Park, Canford Cliffs & District Residents’ Association Founded 1958
MINUTES OF MONTHLY MEETING HELD WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 2017
PRESENT
Bob Reid Chairman
Carol Parkin Secretary/Minutes Secretary Mike Parkin Membership Secretary Dugald Eadie (DE) Planning Officer
Approximately 27 members and wardens
The Chairman welcomed those present.
APOLOGIES
Cllr. May Haines, Chris Stracey, Paul Fearnley; Treasurer, John Gunton; Magazine Editor, Roger Allen; Vice Chair & Advertising, Stan Alfert, Helle May, Bert Neo,
Alison Veale, Dawn Goodson, Julie Reid
MINUTES OF MEETING HELD OCTOBER 11 , 2017
Chris Stracey pointed out that he wished to clarify that regarding Beach Road Car Park, attempts were made to overturn the covenant on Blake Dene Road, but they were unsuccessful.
MATTERS ARISING FROM THE MINUTES.
There were no matters arising from the minutes of the October meeting.
BEACH ROAD CAR PARK
The Chairman updated that following our last meeting, we did seek advice from a solicitor to help with our opposition to the development of the Beach Road car park. The Lands Tribunal have instructed the Council to contact people owning land within 200 metres of the site to give them the opportunity to raise objections with the Upper Chamber. The period for objections was for one month., expiring on the 11th. The association continues to support the objections, but objections, at the moment, will have to come from those contacted.
John Sprackling, (JS) on behalf of the Association had sent a question to the council as follows:
- It is noticed that the Council proposes to fit height restrictors to the entrance to Sandbanks car park to prevent oversize vehicle entry.Beach Road car park has been affected in the same way. Why is the Council not proposing to fit restrictors in the same way to the entrance to Beach Road car park?
A (Cllr John Rampton, Portfolio Holder for Environment and Open Spaces)
There is no such proposal from the Council. There is a recommendation from the Place Overview and Scrutiny Committee to look into the feasibility of CCTV and some kind of lockable gating
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Robert Reid
Branksome Park, Canford Cliffs & District Residents’ Association Founded 1958
system at the entrance to Sandbanks Car Park, as Cabinet will discuss later tonight when we reach that agenda item. This, of course, was prompted by a particularly challenging incident involving Travellers last year. Unlike Sandbanks Car Park, Beach Road Car Park is usually unmanned, though still requires access by large vehicles.
There will be several decisions tonight on the general theme of hardening, prevention and management of unauthorised encampments around the Borough and I see no reason why Beach Road Car park should not be included in the more holistic view we intend to take.
JS fears that we shall still be in the same position next year.
DANGEROUS FOOTPATHS
The Chairman observed that around Balcombe Road and Burton Road the footpaths were not cleared of pine needles etc., last year. More pine needles have fallen now, and the footpaths are quite dangerous and slippery. The footpaths are also shared with a cycle track which is indistinguishable. The Chairman asks why are these not cleared every year. As we have no Councillors present at the meeting to address this question to, BR will contact the Council directly.
This matter was discussed generally. Overhanging branches being an obstruction was also discussed. JS said that he would provide an e mail address to contact.
POOLE MARITIME FESTIVAL
It transpired that even though this event looked to be a success, it was not for the Council as their loss was approximately £200,000. JS reported that nevertheless the same event will be held next year, with no budget.
PLANNING APPLICATIONS
DE reported on one particular Planning Application, in which a bungalow on Ettrick Road is going to be demolished and replaced with another bungalow with a larger footprint. The sceptics feel that this may be the first attempt for approval of a larger footprint, and then there will be a further application.
Planning Application and Decision lists for Meeting 8 November 2017 List 44 included
APPLICATIONS APP/17/01531/P 26/09/2017 6 Pinewood Road.
Following refusal of previous application, new one for block of 5 flats to replace bungalow. BPCCRA has objected, also some neighbours. Bizarre “support” from chairman of Sandbanks Association.
APP/17/01470/P 18/09/2017 1 De Mauley Road.
Demolish existing house and replace with 3 storey block of 8 flats. No objections yet. APP/17/01157/F 23/08/2017
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Robert Reid
Branksome Park, Canford Cliffs & District Residents’ Association Founded 1958
1-5 Lindsay Road
McCarthy & Stone proposal for 37 retirement apartments to replace 3 bungalows. Advance consultation has already taken place. 18 letters, including at least 3 “approvals”. Objection from BPCCRA. Evidence that applicant does not realise implications of Conservation Area.
APP/17/01114/F 15/08/2017 43 Western Road
Replace existing 5 bedroom house with three blocks of flats (10 in total) Difficult to see how this can be justified in Conservation Area (existing house is listed in Poole Council documents) . 26 objections – Dover Road residents quite active, objection from BPCCRA
APP/17/01164/F 9/08/2017 1,1A Canford Cliffs Avenue
Demolish existing bungalow and erect two 4-bed detached houses. See comments on 5 Canford Cliffs Avenue below. 4 objections from immediate neighbours, particularly concerned about impact on road, which has a cultivated central reservaion. Also a complete change to the style of the properties. Withdrawn on 12 October 2017 – new application expected with revised plans.
APP/17/01084/P 25/07/2017 19 Canford Cliffs Road
Demolish garage and erect new detached house, creating new entrance where there is an existing pedestrian gate. As usual. This will increase the density of housing. No objections so far. Red card applied by councillor -says applicant has “democratic right” to decision by committee.
APP/17/00962/P 13/07/2017 2 Mornish Road
Demolish existing house and replace with single dwelling. No objections.
APP/17/00997/F 10/07/2017 5 Canford Cliffs Avenue
Demolish existing house and replace with 2 detached houses. 8 letters of objection – appears to be a threat to the whole stretch of land to Widdicombe Road. Several neighbours say that there are “covenants” which should prevent this.
APP/17/00785/F 13/06/2017 11 Martello Road South
Demolish existing house and erect block of 14 flats. This is an expansion of the existing approved plan for 9 flats. On 28 July 2017, Robert Syms MP wrote to the Chief Executive of Poole Borough Council to object to this proposal. There are some amendments to the plans.
DECISIONS
APP/17/01005/FF 3/07/2017 2A Martello Park (Martello Lodge)
Increase existing approved 4 storey block to 5 storeys. Refused 13/10/2017
Refused due to impact of extra height on neighbours, also above tree line, further increase in congestion.
APP/17/01070/P 20/07/2017 9 Martello Road South
Demolish existing bungalow and replace with three dwellings.
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Refused 20/10/ 2017
Refused by Planning Committee. Development of three houses to replace a bungalow not consistent with the style of Oratory Gardens.
APP/17/00206/F 15/02/2017
Alterations, extensions and conversion of existing house to form 4 cluster houses with new vehicular access, parking and bin storage.
Refused 23/10/ 2017
Refusal letter makes rational analysis of why this application is unacceptable. Too cramped, no facilities for all the extra cars.
ACCOUNTS TO DATE
The Chairman reported that the accounts are still very healthy. We currently have £31,499.58p in the account.
BR has copies if anyone wishes to see them.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS.
Sajid David has now given the OK for a Unitary Council, however Christchurch are still fighting against this.
JS provided the latest information about the proposals for the Beach Huts on the Promenade.
Pf
| Location | Project | Status | Update | |
| Shore Rd | Block 8 | Refurb 6 + add 6 new huts | Planning Permission
pending |
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Block 1 |
Refurb 12 + add 12 new huts |
In feasibility & design phase |
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Promenade |
Enhance public realm & facilities inc. new kiosk and water sports concessions |
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|
Flaghead Chine |
Promenade |
Add 4 huts + enhance public realm |
In design phase |
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|
Branksome Chine |
Promenade |
Improved public realm + enable land train phase |
In feasibility & design phase |
|
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Branksome Park, Canford Cliffs & District Residents’ Association Founded 1958
| Branksome Dene Chine | Promenade | Add 4 new huts | Planning Permission granted | |
|
Canford
Cliffs (W) |
Pavilion |
New café, refurb toilets & improve public realm |
Planning Permission
granted On hold
following cliff slip. |
|
|
Block I -11 |
Rebuild 45 existing +
add 37 new |
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| Blocks 12 & 13 | Rebuild 102 existing, add 89 new + refurb 4 huts. | |||
| Canford
Cliffs (E) |
Blocks 14 & 19 | Rebuild 45 existing +
add 37 new |
Withdrawn | |
The refurbishment of the toilet block near Cliff Drive and turning the shelter into a café has been approved, but is being held up because of the land slip.
JS People may have seen yellow notices about various footpaths in the woods. There is no need to worry as these footpaths are going to be put on the definitive map.
The footpath in Forest Road is still closed.
The Chairman asked if there is still a problem with abandoned vehicles. There are still a couple, but one is on a private road.
The Chairman thanked those responsible for the distribution of the magazine.
JS said that he still has a bundle for Western Avenue and Pinewood Road which have not yet been collected.
There have been many positive comments about the magazine since its changes.
The Chairman confirmed that the Association had between 2,500 and 3,000 members, including those in blocks of apartments.
The meeting closed at 8.30 pm
The Next Meeting is on the Wednesday 13th December and will conclude with seasonal refreshments
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Branksome Park, Canford Cliffs & District Residents’ Association October Minutes
Branksome Park, Canford Cliffs & District Residents’ Association Founded 1958
Minutes of the Meeting on 11th.October 2017 at St Aldhelms Meeting Room, Lindsay Road at 7.30 p.m.
Present Bob Reid Chairman
Mike Parkin Membership Secretary Roger Allen Magazine Advertising Dugald Eadie Planning Officer
Cllr May Haines Cllr Mohan Iyengar
Approximately 20 members Apologies and Welcome
The chair welcomed new members/ visitors, the two Ward Councillors, and noted apologies from
John Gunton, Magazine Editor.
Carol Parkin, Secretary and Minute Secretary. Paul Fernley, Treasurer.
Stan Alfert, Dawn Goodson, Andrew Kileen, Steph Stevenson.
Minutes of September Meeting
The minutes were accepted as a true account of the last meeting.
Matters Arising
There was an update on the illegal incursions of Travellers in Car Parks since it was discussed in Parliament. John Sprackling had heard the debate on TV and thought that our MP Robert Syms contributed well but regretted R.S. did not inform local people whom he represents, beforehand that the debate was going to take place. It was felt that it is at Parliamentary level that solutions to this difficulty can be solved. A member thought the time freed up by Brexit could be used to change Legislation on the rights of Gypsies and Travellers.
As Steph Stevenson was not able to attend the last meeting to present the work being carried out in the Canford Cliffs Forum the chair welcomed her colleague Victoria Edwards to the meeting and invited her to present the ideas and plans which have been drawn up to date.
V.E. informed the meeting of progress including the Tesco application. Which M.I. confirmed is going ahead but no actual date to start work on the empty shops has been announced by Tesco.
V.E. showed some display boards of proposed plans for the road improvements, including benches, possible 20 mph speed limit and the planting of small ornamental trees.
The Association is supporting the plans and the bid for funding from the Community Infrastructure Levy, CIL. The chair agreed that the Executive would consider an actual financial contribution to assist the CIL bid.
The chair thanked V.E. for her time and the presentation.
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Abandoned, illegally parked vehicles, anti-social behaviour.
The Chair saidthis has become an increasing problem and where somevehicleswhich are lived in used to park at the end of Western Road they have moved to more residential areas due to the Parking Meters. JS confirmed that the two vans had been removed. M. H. informed that the occupiers of some vehicles had been offered alternative accommodation but could not be forced to take it.
JS thought the main reason for slow action lay with the Driver Vehicle Licencing Agency not having the capacity to take quick action.
A member (Adrian) knew of a vehicle which was left for 6 weeks even after it had been reported. R.A. pointed out that other people get booked very quickly so that should happen to all illegal or illegally parked vehicles.
When people live in them this is more difficult.
Beach Road Car Park
The chair reminded members present about the plan to build on the Beach Road Car Park which was first announced in a Draft Development Brief published in November 2016.
Roy Pointer updated the meeting on progress with the Association’s objections. RP explained that objection had been made at all stages:
Car park underuse due to poor signage, when on-road parking was proposed; Car park needed to support the seafront strategy for Poole beaches;
Council’s Proposed Development Brief in Jan 17;
Inclusion in the draft Local Plan revision (site A11);
Inclusion in the Pre-submission of Local Plan (site U8) to the Planning Inspectorate.
In the last case we have requested the opportunity to represent to the Inspector in person. That will be towards the year-end or early next year. Regret that the Council Cabinet persists with its development proposals despite significant and continuing objection from residents.
Council now seeks relief from the onerous covenants attached to the site and has sought ‘commercial confidential’ protection from sharing information. We have used FOI Requests to both Council and Justice Dept. as a result, we now understand that:
Council has applied to Justice Dept. for covenant relief;
Council has been instructed to consult with owners/occupiers of land within a 200m radius of the site;
Council proposes to place Notices in Echo and at site on 13th October giving details of its request to Justice Dept.
We knowthat when the car park proposal was included in theDraft Local Plan consultation, it received one of the largest numbers of responses of all the sites. Of the 62 responses, 53 were against, the remaining 9 were equivocal. Nevertheless, the site was carried forward to the eventual plan with a suggested scope for around 60 dwellings.
Association proposes to continue to object and seeks the support of Members to do so. Detailed strategy will be discussed at meeting of the Steering Group early next week.
Chris Stracey expressed his outrage that the council are attempting to overturn the covenants. He thought the Association should take legal advice on the council’s proposal as it affected more than the people living within the 200 metres of the park.
He referred to the case of Blake Dene Road where a site had covenants overturned.
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He suggested the hidden agenda of the council has been to keep this carpark difficult to find by poor signage and overgrown just to give the impression it is no longer viable. Like the Beehive Pub which was allowed to be rundown. He thought the whole handling of the car park was a “scam”.
He suggested the association notify everyone and pointed out that many consultation meetings take place during the working day.
He felt very strongly that the car park should remain.
Adrian thought that the BPCCRA should find out from other Associations if this is happening to them and warn them.
The council owns the land, but it is not known how the land was transferred without changing the covenants.
C.S. Said there is a strong feeling that the council is ignoring local opinion and ride roughshod over our opinions and don’t care about what people feel.
There was discussion on what legal advice might cost and it was agreed unanimously that the BPCCRA could seek legal advice up to £3,000 to defend the covenants and retain the Car Park as it is.
R.P. Reminded the meeting that once these notices are issued there is a time clock running. D.E. felt our main purpose is to look after covenants on our boundary areas.
Once permission is granted there will be a release fee and covenants being released is not new.
M.I. explained that the council must save a huge amount of money and while we want to protect our interests that he and the other two ward councillors are only 3 of the 42 councillors and Canford Cliffs ward will be affected by the cuts in some way.
He pointed out that anything that is non-statutory for the council may be cut, such as The Lighthouse, Street Maintenance, Bournemouth Symphony Orchestra and Libraries.
He thought it would be hard to make the case for retaining the car park as it is when development would still leave 140 spaces which could be improved and of a high standard.
C.S. said this is another example of why this area is no longer attractive to tourists.
R.A. said the reality of life is that the council is under colossal pressure as explained my M.I. and there would still be 140 spaces.
Many agreed that the council tax should be increased to pay for the services we want and that most people would be happy to do this. There were several comments on the top rate of council tax not reflecting the properties not worth several million pounds and blocks of flats are paying a greater share than the more valuable houses on large plots of land.
R.P. remarked that if the council was business and was consolidating in the merger with Bournemouth and Christchurch there would be the ability to save a considerable amount of money.
M.I. Reminded everyone that the council has commitments to their workers who have pension rights and union representation. And we are waiting for the Secretary of State to confirm that the mergers can go ahead although some services are already sharing and combining between Bournemouth and Poole.
M.H. reminded us the delay has been caused by the election and events such as the Grenfell Tower disaster.
Planning Applications
D.E. The Planning Officer, Drew the meetings attention to those which were new or were of concern. APP/17/01531/P 26/09/2017
6 Pinewood Road.
Following refusal of previous application, new one for block of 5 flats to replace bungalow. No objections yet.
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APP/17/01470/P 18/09/2017 1 De Mauley Road.
Demolish existing house and replace with 3 storey block of 8 flats. No objections yet.
APP/17/01005/F 24/08/2017 2a Martello Park (Martello Lodge)
Increase existing approved 4 storey block to 5 storeys. Neighbours in South Lodge, having accepted the original plan, are not happy with the extra floor. All blocks around that area are 4 storeys. Red card is expected. Over 20 objections, including BPCCRA.
APP/17/01157/F 23/08/2017 1-5 Lindsay Road
McCarthy & Stone proposal for 37 retirement apartments to replace 3 bungalows. Advance consultation has already taken place. 18 letters, including at least 3 “approvals”. Objection from BPCCRA. Evidence that applicant does not realise implications of Conservation Area.
APP/17/01114/F 15/08/2017 43 Western Road
Replace existing 5 bedroom house with three blocks of flats (10 in total) Difficult to see how this can be justified in Conservation Area (existing house is listed in Poole Council documents). 26 objections – Dover Road residents quite active, objection from BPCCRA
APP/17/01164/F 9/08/2017 1,1A Canford Cliffs Avenue
Demolish existing bungalow and erect two 4-bed detached houses. See comments on 5 Canford Cliffs Avenue below. 4 objections from immediate neighbours, particularly concerned about impact on road, which has a cultivated central reservation. Also, a complete change to the style of the properties.
APP/17/01070/P 20/07/2017 9 Martello Road South
Demolish existing bungalow and replace with three dwellings. Further increase in density of housing in this area. Main objection from neighbour in Oratory Gardens, worried about overlooking windows and impact of basement construction. Now going to October Planning Committee meeting.
APP/17/00997/F 10/07/2017 5 Canford Cliffs Avenue
Demolish existing house and replace with 2 detached houses. 8 letters of objection – appears to be a threat to the whole stretch of land to Widdicombe Road. Several neighbours say that there are “covenants” which should prevent this.
APP/17/00785/F 13/06/2017 11 Martello Road South
Demolish existing house and erect block of 14 flats. This is an expansion of the existing approved plan for 9 flats. 4 letters of objection, but note that residents already tried hard to prevent original application, and will probably do less now. On 28 July 2017, Robert Syms MP wrote to the Chief Executive of Poole Borough Council to object to this proposal. There are some amendments to the plans.
We will be objecting to this application. DECISIONS
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APP/17/00957/F 3/07/2017 19 Wilderton Road
Demolish existing house and erect block of 6 flats. Refused 22/09/2017
Refused due to several issues, including parking, bin collection, pedestrian access, not suitable site for flats. Simply not appropriate for Conservation Area.
APP/17/01069/F 20/07/2017 109 Lilliput Road
Replacement of existing house with block of 3 flats, with flat roof including pond and seating area. Refused 5/10/2017
No objection to concept of flats, but actual proposal is not consistent with the rest of the road.
Community Working Group meeting held on 27th September.
The chair explained that he has attended the last two meetings of this group at the Civic Centre and gave a brief account of some of the discussions which had taken place. He pointed out that the minutes of the AGM were available, and the September ones were due soon.
He asked if someone would like to take over representing BPCCRA on this group as he did not have time to attend. They are quarterly and D.E. agreed to consider attending on our behalf.
As there was no Other Business the meeting closed 9.15 pm.
The next meeting is on the 8th November
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MINUTES OF MONTHLY MEETING HELD WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 11, 2017
MINUTES OF MONTHLY MEETING HELD WEDNESDAY SEPTEMBER 11, 2017
PRESENT
Terry Stewart President Bob Reid Chairman
Carol Parkin Secretary/Minutes Secretary Mike Parkin Membership Secretary Roger Allen Magazine Advertising
Dugald Eadie Planning Officer Cllr. Mohan Iyengar
Cllr. May Haines
Approximately 30 members and wardens The Chairman welcomed those present. APOLOGIES
John Gunton, Paul Fearnley, Roy Pointer, Linda Brook, Julie Reid, Steph Stephenson. MINUTES OF MEETING HELD JULY 12, 2017
The Chairman explained why these minutes were longer than usual.
There were no comments from the members about these minutes and so they were approved. TRAVELLER INCURSIONS
Since the last Association meeting The Chairman went along to a meeting at the Council where Traveller Incursions was discussed. The Council are rather tied with the rules and laws from the Government.
The Association made a presentation at the meeting at the Council where the Associations views and opinions were presented by John Gunton along with details of the assault and the car damage, which the Council listened to carefully. They appeared to be concerned that the police were not being active enough and will speak with the PCC, Martyn Underhill.
The idea of Temporary Stopping Place (TSP) on a rotation basis was mooted, in order that there could be a site to which the Travellers could be directed. Travellers used to have a permanent site allocated to them in Poole, but this was taken away as they ‘trashed’ it. There is no TSP in Poole currently. DE brought up the question of definition of Traveller, as the ones we have in Poole appear to be ‘tourists’. The Chairman said that this is another whole new issue. A member pointed out that when he visited Winchester last month a large proportion of the Travellers illegally camped in the car park there were French. There was then general discussion on ‘Travellers’. John Sprackling said that there was presently a Traveller presence on the car park at Sandbanks. Cllr MI then brought us up to date with progress so far made by the Council. There is general agreement that there needs to be adjustment to the law but that Poole Council are unable to do this. He has had a meeting with the PCC’s office about police inactivity towards Travellers. They insist that they can do nothing until the law is changed. There is no support at the Council for having rotating TSPs. There is still the reticence of the population of Poole to have a site in proximity to where they live, but more importantly, no one rotating site would be large enough. There is the question as to whether there should be a TSP outside the Borough in a rural area, but the stipulation is that we must have a site
within the borough, and this is part of the law that Poole Council would like to be changed because of the constriction of space within the borough.
UNITARY COUNCIL
We’re still waiting a Government decision on this but plans need to be made because of the budget. Cllr Haines detailed the shared services Poole Council already has with Bournemouth.
For instance, there is now only one Head of Legal and Democratic Services, HR, Financial Services, and IT.
There has been a voluntary redundancy programme in order that each section of Corporate Services may reach its target of 20% saving.
The Seafront and library services are currently being negotiated.
TS asked how much had to be saved and Cllr. MH told him that it is about £10.8Million but as this is a work in progress there cannot be an exact figure.
MP asked if anybody is monitoring that those who take redundancy are not rehired as consultants. Cllr.MH said that this is very unlikely to happen.
JS said that he would like more detail to be provided when consultants are hired.
DE said that he hoped that our Council had some concept of ethics. It was pointed out that Stephen Thorne, who was the Head of Planning, had been re-hired on a consultancy basis!
Cllr MI explained that even though some beachfront services were shared, Poole seafront remains in the ownership of Poole Council, and the same for Bournemouth.
TS brought up the question of lack of information from Poole Council; Cllr MI agreed that there is still work to be done on communications.
CANFORD CLIFFS FORUM
This is a working group between the Council, the traders of Canford Cliffs and the residents of Canford Cliffs. Things are now beginning to happen. We had hoped that Steph Stevenson from HNB would be able to come to our meeting to give us a talk about the aspirations for Haven Road, though Canford Cliffs Village, but, unfortunately, she is unable to attend. However, the proposed plans for Haven Road are on display in HNB salon until the 15th of September. Steph Stevenson is extremely disappointed that she couldn’t be at the meeting, and hopes to be able to be at the next meeting of the Assn. to talk about that proposals for Haven Road. However, things are now going ahead, albeit very slowly due to Council resources and commitments.
A bid for CIL money to be used has been launched.
Work on the new Tesco in Haven Road should begin quite soon. PINECLIFF GARDENS
Roger Allen reported that things are going well with the garden and it is applying for a Green Flag Award. PLANNING APPLICATIONS
APPLICATIONS
APP/17/01005/F 24/08/2017
2a Martello Park (Martello Lodge) Increase existing approved 4 storey block to 5 storeys. Neighbours in South Lodge, having accepted the original plan, are not happy with the extra floor. All blocks around that area are 4 storeys. Red card is expected.
APP/17/01157/F 23/08/2017
1-5 Lindsay Road McCarthy & Stone proposal for 37 retirement apartments to replace 5 bungalows. Advance consultation has already taken place. 5 letters, of which 2 object, 3 approve (unusual).
APP/17/01114/F 15/08/2017
43 Western Road Replace existing 5 bedroom house with three blocks of flats (10 in total) Difficult to see how this can be justified in Conservation Area (existing house is listed in Poole Council documents). 18 objections so far – Dover Road residents quite active, objection from BPCCRA
APP/17/01164/F 9/08/2017
1,1A Canford Cliffs Avenue Demolish existing bungalow and erect two 4-bed detached houses. See comments on 5 Canford Cliffs Avenue below. 4 objections from immediate neighbours, particularly concerned about impact on road, which has a cultivated central reservation. Also, a complete change to the style of the properties.
APP/17/01084/P 25/07/2017
19 Canford Cliffs Road Demolish garage and erect new detached house, creating new entrance where there is an existing pedestrian gate. As usual. This will increase the density of housing. No objections so far.
APP/17/01070/P 20/07/2017
9 Martello Road South Demolish existing bungalow and replace with three dwellings. Further increase in density of housing in this area. Main objection from neighbour in Oratory Gardens, worried about overlooking windows and impact of basement construction.
APP/17/00962/P 13/07/2017
2 Mornish Road Demolish existing house and replace with single dwelling. No objections.
APP/17/00997/F 10/07/2017
5 Canford Cliffs Avenue Demolish existing house and replace with 2 detached houses. 8 letters of objection – appears to be a threat to the whole stretch of land to Widdicombe Road. Several neighbours say that there are “covenants” which should prevent this.
APP/17/00957/F 3/07/2017
19 Wilderton Road Demolish existing house and erect block of 6 flats. Blatant follow-on from approval for single dwelling on 19 May 2017. 7 objections, including BPCCRA. Allowing a block of flats in this part of the road would be against the principles of the Conservation Area.
APP/17/00785/F 13/06/2017
11 Martello Road South Demolish existing house and erect block of 14 flats. This is an expansion of the existing approved plan for 9 flats. 4 letters of objection, but note that residents already tried hard to prevent original application, and will probably do less now. On 28 July 2017, Robert Syms MP wrote to the Chief Executive of Poole Borough Council to object to this proposal.
APP/17/00742/F 02/06/2017
22 St Clair Road Demolish existing 3 flats and erect 2 no 4 bed houses with parking Unusually, 5 letters of support, only 1 objection, concerning privacy. Current building is an “eyesore”.
WITHDRAWN on 3 August 2017. Applicant knew that planning officer was going to refuse it, and it is likely that an amended version will be proposed. The Planning officer was clear that the buildings were too big for the site and the area.
APP/17/00206/F 15/02/2017
5 Ormonde Rd
Alterations, extensions and conversion of existing house to form 4 cluster houses with new vehicular access, parking and bin storage. Neighbourhood opposition with representatives attending the May BRCCRA monthly meeting. At least 20 letters of objection. Revised proposal on 9/08/2017, reducing to 3 dwellings, but neighbours still objecting. DECISIONS
APP/16/01623/F 28/10/2016 46-48 Tower Road
28 retirement apartments (McCarthy & Stone) Grant 3/08/2017
Variation on existing approval, some controversy about location/ traffic issues. APP/17/00405/F 22/03/2017
2 Western Ave
Plot severance and erection of detached dwelling with access from Canford Cliffs Road. Refused 28/07/2017
Strong objections seem to have worked (for now). Impact on trees was a major factor. Appeal made on 30/08/2107 (as expected) Appeal quotes 12A Western Avenue as a “model” to justify splitting the site.
APP/16/01353/F 1/09/2016
22 Balcombe Road New 2-storey house in plot carved out of existing.
Grant 28/07/2017
Some controversy due to increase in density, but numbering suggests that this was expected.
APP/17/00594/F 21/04/2017
11 Newton Road Demolition of existing dwelling and erection of replacement Grant 14/06/2017
APP/17/00697/F 18/05/2017
7 Chaddesley Glen
Demolition of existing dwelling, to be replaced with block of 4 flats.
Grant 20/07/2017
Main point is that planning already exists for a similar building. The “right of light” issue raised by neighbours is a legal matter, and does not affect planning decision.
APP/17/00669/P 18/05/2017
6 Pinewood Road
Demolish existing dwelling and replace with 8 flats and basement parking Refused 13/07/2017
Reasons for refusal are consistent with the many objections. Slight inconsistency with original pre-app advice. PINES AND CHINES MAGAZINE
Just a reminder that anything for the forthcoming issue of the magazine should be given to John Gunton by Friday 15th September.
ACCOUNTS TO DATE
The Accounts are available with the Chairman if anyone wished to look at them. We currently have £32,658 in the account.
TERRY STEWART
Terry has been the President of the Association for some years and has been with the Association for 25 years.
Terry is moving out of the area and is resigning his duties as President. Chairman presented him with a local painting in order that he might remember his association with Poole.
Terry thanked the Association and remarked that our Association is remarkably active in the area. He wished to pay tribute to John Sprackling who was Chair of the Association for 14 years, and to Bob Reid, the current Chairman. ANY OTHER BUSINESS
The Chairman has had an e mail from Cllr. MI detailing the restoration of the landslip at Cliff Drive. If anyone wants to see this contact Bob Reid and he will send a copy.
The latest Neighbour Hood Watch newsletter is available here at the meeting if anyone wishes to take one. John Sprackling informed the meeting that the group Unite the Conurbation are fully supporting
The amalgamation of Bournemouth, Poole and Christchurch Councils. The ‘minded to’ notice may be received on Friday 15th. If this letter is not received, the Unite the Conurbation Group want to send a letter to Sajid Javid (Secretary of State for Communities and Local Government) to encourage him to make a decision. JS went on to say that the group wanted to get an idea or how people feel about this and asked that we could have a show of hands of those who support the unification of the conurbation. There was overwhelming support and two people against the idea.
Cllr. MI asked what the reasons were for being against this plan. The main reason was the fear that Poole would lose its identity and be steamrollered by Bournemouth.
The meeting closed at 8.45pm.
Branksome Park and Canford Cliffs Residents Association C/O Bob Reid (Chair)
46 The Oasis, 45 Lindsay Road Branksome Park Poole BH13 6AP
Website www.pinesandchines.co.uk
Branksome Park Canford Cliffs Residents Association September Meeting
September Meeting
Our September meeting is on the 13th September at St Aldhelms 7.30pm
- We will be following up on the incursions of Travellers.
- Saying Good Bye to our President.
- Being updated on current planning applications.
The Minutes of the July meeting and the Agenda for this meeting are on our website http://www.pinesandchines.
co.uk/about/comittee/ and they are also published on our Facebook Group.
Minutes of May Meeting and Agenda for June 2017 – Branksome Park Canford Cliffs Residents Association
Minutes of monthly meeting held Wednesday May 10, 2017,at 19.30 at St.Aldhelms Lounge meeting room
PRESENT
Bob Reid Chairman
Carol Parkin Secretary/Minutes Secretary
Mike Parkin Membership Secretary
Tracy Holmes Planning Officer
APOLOGIES
Apologies were received from Roger Allen, John Gunton, Paul Fearnley, Cllr. Mohan Iyengar, Cllr. May Haines, who said she would be a little late. Dawn Goodson.
There were 15 Wardens/members also present.
The Chairman welcomed those present and was pleased to see some new members.
MINUTES OF THE MARCH 2017 MEETING
The minutes of the last monthly meeting were accepted as a correct record.
MATTERS ARISING
The AGM which was held in April was well attended. Refreshments were provided by Tesco.
The format of having more speakers who gave shorter talks, with no Q & A as they were available after the meeting during refreshments for any questions, was welcomed. The principal speaker was going to talk about the plans for Haven Road in Canford Cliffs Village, but she was unable to attend at the last minute.
Closing public toilets in Poole
Although the public toilets in our area have not been closed there has been strong local feeling
regarding this issue. There has also been national media attention. One of the main reasons for the local objection to this Council plan, is that it will have a negative effect on tourism. There will be no public toilet facility at the Sandbanks ferry area nor in Baiter park. Stan Alfert feels that if there is no action or comment by the Council it should be recorded that there was adverse publicity as a result of these toilets closing. At this point Cllr. May Haines joined the meeting. She told the meeting that a Press Release will be issued by the Council in the next two days. She went on to say that there have been positive talks between the Council and local businesses in keeping some sort of facility open. It was decided to leave things at the moment until the Council’s press release was examined.
JS asked if the Council were ‘in purdah’ on the subject of the closure of toilets, and Cllr MH replied that they were not, as far as she is aware. Dougald Eadie asked if closing the toilets meant a saving of £100K why could the residents not pay for it, as this is a relatively small amount of money in the grand scheme. It was pointed out that most of the money used would be for servicing the toilets each year. SA suggested that there could be a charge for the use of the toilet, in order to pay for themselves. A member said that the Branksome Woods Tennis Club’s lease requires them to provide toilet facilities. There is no notice there, nor is it on the BoP website. Cllr. MH recognised this and replied that the website needs updating. A member asked if the toilets could not be supported by local businesses, giving them publicity. The Chair replied that this, and asking sports clubs, is the sort of thing that is being investigated at the moment.
Beach Road Car Park
This was discussed at the AGM in April. There were over 100 people in attendance, and of these about 80% thought there should be no building at all on the car park and about 16% thought it would be acceptable to develop part of the car park but some of those thought it should community based building.
Roy Pointer noted that the road parking in Western Road for portions of both sides had been signed off by the Portfolio Holder.
RP reported that AGM vote on the future of Beach Road car park had been taken from the 125 members present as follows:
Retain and improve the car park – 85, develop the car park – 16 of which 6 recommended community use. The result meant that the Association would seek to convince the Council that the car park not be developed.
Following concern from members that the Covenants to Beach Road car park be enforced to prevent development, Cllr Iyengar had agreed that we should meet with legal and other officers at the Council; we were looking to set that up shortly. We would also be representing in the Local Plan process that the car park (Site A11) be removed from the Plan prior to its adoption for recommendation to the Secretary of State.
Man in the Woods
Cllr. MH reported that the camp in the woods is no longer there. JS suggested that the Council remove some of the undergrowth which ought to help for the future. Cllr. MH said that she would put this request to the Council. JS reported that the car with no MOT certificate is still there. Cllr. MH said that this is a police matter.
RECENT CAR CRIME/BURGLARY
The Chairman reported that there had been a spate of car crime and attempted burglaries around the Tower Road area. This is a warning to residents not to leave their cars unlocked.
Pinecliff Gardens, Canford Cliffs Library
Pinecliff Gardens is now up and running again after the winter break, and there are new volunteers.
We have spent money on tools, which are now stored in the Library Store. The Chairman appealed for new volunteers to help with gardening on a Thursday morning when the main group meets, or a Tuesday when some people are there. Any help would be very welcome.
Our Planning Officer, Tracy Holmes, stepped down at the AGM, but she has prepared the
Applications which have come through since then.
PLANNING REPORTS
4 Brackenhill Demolish existing house and garage and construct two semi detached
Dwellings. There have been 11 letters of objection.
12 De Mauley Road Demolish existing semi detached dwellings and erect two replacement
Detached houses. No overall objections by residents.
14 Pinewood Road Partial demolition of building and construction of two-storey rear
Extention to convert to 6 apartments and semi detached houses.
There have been continued objections to the scheme and amended
Site plans have been submitted.
Decisions
5/7 Chaddesley Demolition of existing buildings and construction of two blocks of
Glen four apartments.
Grant
4 St.Clair Road Demolition of existing dwelling and construction of four bedroom
Replacement dwelling.
Grant
11 Martello Road Demolition of existing dwelling and erection of 3-storey block of
South 9 flats.
Neighbourhood opposition to the scheme.
Grant
10 Nairn Road Demolition of existing dwelling and construct two replacement
Dwellings.
Some objection letters received
Grant
ACCOUNTS
We still have £31,580.
There will be some expenditure for Pinecliffe Gardens. The budget for this year has not yet been set.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS
The Chairman reported that he gets a lot of letters and e mails about the Haven Hotel and the plans for Sandbanks. As this is not in our area the Chairman is reluctant to ‘step on the toes’ of another Association. SA feels that although this is not our area, the Association should express firm views that these plans are not acceptable.
There was much discussion on this – traffic problems, Poole’s amount of tourism trade with a loss of Hotel beds etc. Mr. Eadie pointed out that it was a difficult problem for the owner, as he maintains the hotel is no longer viable. Cllr. MH said that there was no net loss of hotel beds because of the way the application had been worded. She also thinks that this application will not be decided quickly as there are many factors involved.
JS said that a lady in Sandbanks is setting up an action group to fight this application, with the help of lawyers from London. JS wonders whether we should have a representative at their meetings.
It was suggested that we offer our support to the Sandbanks Residents’ Association and perhaps invite Ken Sanson along to our next meeting to talk about these plans and what sort of help he requires. Any resident can oppose the plans if they wish.
As there was no further business the Chairman closed the meeting at 8.30.
THE NEXT MEETING WILL BE HELD ON WEDNESDAY JUNE 14, 2017
Agenda for June 14th 2017 at 7.30 pm.
To be held in the Lounge meeting room of St. Aldhelms Church (accessed from Lindsay Road).
Welcome and apologies.
Minutes of the meeting on the 10th May 2017.
Matters arising
Planning Officer
Planning List
Tesco in Canford Cliffs
Licenced event on Canford Cliffs beach.
Haven Hotel
Accounts
A.O.B.
Our next meeting will be on 12th July 2017
Minutes of March – Branksome Park Canford Cliffs and District Residents’ Association
Minutes of monthly meeting held Wednesday March 8, 2017, at 19.30
PRESENT Terry Stewart President
Bob Reid Chairman
Carol Parkin Secretary/Minutes Secretary
Cllr. May Haines and approximately 30 wardens and members.
APOLOGIES Cllr. Mohan Iyengar, Mike Parkin, John Gunton, Paul Fearnley, Roger Alan, Dawn Goodson, Alan and Libby Bentall, Ken Sanson, Tracy Holmes.
The Chairman welcomed those present and was pleased to see some new members.
MINUTES OF THE FEBRUARY 2017 MEETING
The minutes of the last meeting were accepted as a correct record.
MATTERS ARISING
Parking Charges Update
RP reminded members that the Association had objected strongly to the full metering plan on the grounds that:
- It had been overwhelmingly rejected by residents.
- No evidence of congestion had been offered by the Council
- No complaints of lack of parking or congestion had been received by the Council.
- No regard had been given by the Council to the availability of off-road parking ie Beach Road car park.
- The scheme was to cater in part for the 25 years Beach Development Plan and was therefore premature.
The Council had now reduced the impact of the Branksome Park/Canford Cliffs portion down to the East and West sides of Western Road. Following the advertised Traffic Order to which we had also objected, metering of the East side of Western Road, adjacent to Beach Road car park had been agreed on Monday March 6. Proposals to meter the West side of Western Road had been withdrawn to enable a new Order to be advertised for a reduced length between Pinecliff Road Junction and the Southern boundary of No. 9 Western Road, to which we also object.
RP will now discuss the possibility of requesting a formal review of the Council’s decision with the Executive, and remind the Council that we shall still object to any metering on the West side of Western Road, even for the reduced length now proposed.
Closure of Public Toilets
The Chairman attended a call-in meeting. There was quite strong opposition to closing the toilets, especially in Baiter Park but despite this the decision was that the toilets would be mothballed. John Sprackling commented that the closure of the toilets at the ferry to Studland was very important as during the summer when there are long queues for the ferry there will be no provision for a public toilet. There was discussion about the various ways community toilets could operate, but generally this is not finding favour with Traders, with some places even having notices that their toilet facilities are for customers only.
There was a question as to exactly how much money was being saved in the council budget by closing toilets. Cllr MH pointed out that as well as the maintenance costs to the Council, some toilets would need upgrading. TS suggested that CIL money could be made available for this.
Cllr Haines assured the meeting that all options were being looked at and suggestions would be welcome.
Beach Road Car Park Update.
RP reminded members that at the presentation to the meeting in December there were mixed views from the members as to the desirability of the Council developing the car park and he had reported accordingly to the Council in response to the consultation. It would be helpful for the Association to give the Executive a more definite view and he hoped that there may be time to take soundings at the forthcoming AGM. In this way the Council would be of no doubt as to the views of the members on the future of the car park, in the context of the review of the Local Plan due for consultation this year.
Tony Beale is currently researching old covenants on this area. He is ill at the moment and we wish him a speedy recovery.
Canford Cliffs Beach Shelter.
The Council plan is to turn this into a cafeteria/restaurant with extra beach huts built above it, and to demolish the current ice cream kiosk. At our last meeting there was a question as to whether the Council had made a business plan. When this was enquired into, the Council replied that a Business Plan is not needed to submit a planning application. Cllr MH had no knowledge of this. The meeting is questioning whether this plan is viable.
PLANNING APPLICATIONS
5 Ormond Road Planning Application for alterations and extensions to convert existing house
Into 4 ‘Cluster Houses’ with new vehicular access, parking and bin storage.
There is a lot of neighbourhood opposition to this.
Nick Robinson, from 11 Chester Road gave the meeting his objections to this plan. He currently lives in a flat which has been converted very sympathetically with the area. This Application would massively affect the street scene and undermine the integrity of the area. ‘Cluster Houses’ is a euphemism for flats. The adjacent houses have already disclosed that they intend to convert and extend the properties into more ‘cluster houses’.
This would mean more traffic with all the attendant risks. Mr. Robinson feels that the Council should apply ‘Affordable housing’ in a responsible way.
If the planning application for 5 Ormond Road is passed it will set a precedent. He feels that Poole Council displays a lack of responsibility by not maintaining this area in a sympathetic way; litter, fly tipping etc., and that this area needs to be preserved. He encourages everybody to look at these issues – Mr. Robinson’s e mail address can be obtained from the Chairman.
Cllr MH said that she agreed with everything that has been said and was originally responsible for having this area designated a Conservation Area.
She will have very strong views to put forward to the Planning Committee.
She advised Mr. Robinson on the best way to put his objections to the Planning Committee.
There was general discussion on the Planning that has been allowed by Poole Council.
4 Brackenhill Demolish existing house and garage. Construct two semi-detached houses. Eleven letters of objection have been received.
10 Nairn Road Demolish existing dwelling and construct two replacement dwelling. Some objection letters have been received.
11 Martello Rd. South Demolish existing dwelling and erect three storey block of nine flats. There is neighbourhood opposition to this scheme.
12 DeMauley Road Demolish existing semi-detached dwellings and erect two replacement detached dwellings.
14 Pinewood Road Partial demolition of building and construction of two-storey rear extension to convert to six apartments, and semi-detached house. Continued submissions objecting to this scheme. Amended site plans submitted.
Decisions.
6 Newton Road Demolition of existing building and construction of two semi-detached dwellings.
This has been Granted.
ACCOUNTS
There is currently a sum of £32,467 in the account.
The Chairman was pleased to report that the funds raised from advertising in the Spring
Magazine almost covers the cost of production of the magazine. Roger Allan, who is responsible for
advertising in the magazine had reported that this is going extremely well.
Copies of last month’s accounts are available if anyone wished to take a copy.
CANFORD CLIFFS COLLECTIVE MEETING
The Chairman reported that he attended a meeting last night of the Canford Cliffs Collective
Group. This has been set up to improve the appearance of Haven Road through the Village.
Carol Parkin also attended the meeting as she currently lives in Canford Cliffs. She reported that
Steph Stevenson who owns the hairdressers, HNB, on Haven Road is leading this group. Steph has
quite a few ideas to invigorate Haven Road.
These include Holding a yearly festival – Oyster and Champagne, in September, to be organised
by a company who run all kinds of festivals all over England.
Flag poles for the walls of shops where Christmas trees, flags etc. can be displayed.
Heritage Lighting installed.
Ornamental pear trees provided to shops and business to display in tubs outside
their premises.
A defibrillator could be installed in say the Post Office area.
Funds raised from the festival would be used to improve the appearance of Haven.
This should increase footfall.
All these ideas were agreed in principle.
There was an idea to have a website, but this was shelved for the time being and social media could be used to promote the village.
The Chairman was asked a question as to the current situation of Tesco moving into the empty shops in Haven Road. At the Collective meeting, Matthew Robson from Poole Council had said that he expected a Planning Application to be put in imminently by Tesco. The Chairman expected that when Tesco move into Canford Cliffs they will inject money into helping improve Haven Road.
There is a rumour that Tesco on Sandbanks will close, and if this is the case, it could be that trade in Canford Cliffs increases.
There was discussion on parking in Canford Cliffs.
TS asked Cllr MH what the Council intend for the use of Section 106 money that is still outstanding.
Cllr Haines replied that she would make enquiries.
Steph Stevenson will give a short presentation on the plans for Haven Road at our AGM in April, and it is hoped that Matt Robson and Adrian Trevett from Poole Council will come along too.
ANY OTHER BUSINESS
Nick Robinson asked Cllr MH for a contact at Poole Council to contact in relation to Fly Tipping.
Cllr MH supplied this.
JS asked about ‘the man in the woods’. This man appears to be living in a den in the wood. Cllr MH will report this to the Council.
There will be no monthly meeting in April as our AGM will be held Saturday 22nd April.
The meeting closed at 8.45 pm
BPCCRA Meeting Agenda – March 8th
Agenda for March 8th 2017 at 7.30 pm.
To be held in the Lounge meeting room of St. Aldhelms Church (accessed from Lindsay Road).
- Welcome and apologies.
- Minutes of the meeting on the 8th February 2017.
- Matters arising
- Update on Parking charges and parking meters.
- Closing of the public toilets
- Beach road car park update on consultation.
- Canford Cliffs Beach Shelter result of enquiries.
- Other Planning reports
- Accounts
- Canford Cliffs Co-operative meetings.
- A.O.B
Minutes of February Meeting
The Next Meeting will be our AGM the 22nd April in Canford Cliffs’ Village Hall at 10.30 am.
There will be a presentation and refreshments afterwards.
Minutes of February Meeting – Branksome Park and Canford Cliffs District Residents Association
Minutes of monthly meeting held Wednesday February 8, 2017,at 19.30
at St Aldhelms Church Lindsay Road in the Lounge Meeting Room.
PRESENT
Terry Stewart President
Bob Reid Chairman
Roger Allen Vice Chairman
Carol Parkin Secretary/Minutes Secretary
Tracy Holmes Planning Officer
Cllr. Mohan Iyengar and approximately 25 wardens and members.
APOLOGIES Cllr. May Haines, Mike Parkin, John Gunton, Paul Fearnley, Dawn Goodson, David Mauleverer, Charles Boyle, Linda Brook, Martin Heath, Christine Blake, Julie Reid.
The Chairman extended a welcome to those present.
Minutes of the January meeting
The Chairman pointed out that Cllr. May Haines had emailed that it was not just the Civic Centre reception area which was planned to be refurbished, but the whole Customer Services reception, of which 77% of customers surveyed had said was not fit for purpose. Since the last meeting the whole scheme has been scaled back, and we shall be looking at the new scheme.
With this correction, the minutes of the January meeting were approved.
Matters arising
Apart from the above amendment there was no other matters arising
Parking Charges.
The Chairman gave the latest update on the raising of parking charges.
The feedback has not just been from residents, but also from traders who will be affected by these charges and fear that they will lose trade. Saying this, the Chairman went on to say that he felt the Council were not going to go back on this decision. JS pointed out that this had been approved at last night’s Cabinet Meeting. TS said that the charges most affecting our area are the increases to the fees charged at the car parks in Canford Cliffs and Pen Hill which have doubled.
RP commented on the other issue affecting our area – namely the proposal to install parking meters at the bottom end of Western Road. There was a proposal by the Council, last year, to install numerous parking meters in our area, and this has now been scaled back to the area between Martello and Pinecliff Road. RP feels that if parking meters are installed in this area, it could open the floodgates and parking meters will be installed in the other areas which were originally proposed. This is the main reason the Assn. will object to this proposal. The first area of objection will be the Consultation. The second will be that the Council have stated that it will relieve congestion. The Assn. does not feel that there has been any congestion in this area and it is not sufficient grounds for installing parking meters. The third is that the reason for installing meters is when there is no off-road parking in the area. As there is a car park close to this area, it is not felt that this is sufficient grounds for parking meters. The last reason for objecting is that the Council are proposing to allow for possible congestion when the whole beach area has been redeveloped, and the Assn. does not believe that they can quantify this need at the present.
The members present showed their support of this objection by a show of hands.
Beach Road Car Park
The Council’s proposal is to sell half of Beach Road Car Park for development, and this will put extra pressure on on-road parking – namely Western Road.
When Nick Perrins, from the Council, presented the Council’s proposals for Beach Road Car Park at our December meeting, the views of those present were not overwhelmingly against this proposal.
There are a number of covenants on this land, and one from 1931 states that nothing should happen that could cause annoyance or disturbance to neighbouring residents. This may be a reason that could be used to restrict the proposal, although it is rather vague.
Once again the issue of the signage for Beach Road car park was raised.
RP says that we ought to get a feeling for the issue of what will happen to Beach Road Car Park at our AGM in April.
There was a show of hands of those objecting to selling off part of Beach Road Car Park for development (i.e. Flats). There were eight votes objecting to selling off for development of flats.
Next there was a show of hands of those objecting to selling off part of the Car Park for a Council-run resource such as a nursing home. There were no objections to this suggestion.
RP has suggested this to the council.
RA suggested that a care home may not be viable in the light of the number of closures of care homes across the country, and indeed in our area.
Mike Wrigley asked why, Dorset council had the amount of a reported £330M sitting in reserve as reported in the Echo, this was deemed ‘untouchable’. JS commented that there is a sum of £6M of un-earmarked reserves, the rest is earmarked. He has a breakdown of the whole £68M.
Closure of Public Toilets
The Chairman asked if our Assn. should be objecting to the closure of public toilets as most are no in our area. There was a general opinion at the meeting that we should be, if only as residents of Poole. The most important closures are those at the Ferry and those in Baiter Park.
There was much discussion on this matter. One member pointed out that as we are a tourist area, there ought to be adequate provision for visitors. RA suggested that the toilets on the green in Ashley Cross could be re-developed as a café, with a proviso that they maintain toilets for public use. This is something he has seen in practice in other areas.
Planning Applications
4 Brackenhill A further application to demolish existing dwelling and erect semi detached house. One objection has been received.
10 Nairn Road Demolition of existing dwelling and construction of two replacement dwellings. Letters of objection received.
11 Martello Road South Demolition of existing dwelling and erection of three-storey block of nine flats.
8 Dornie Road Demolition of existing dwelling and erecting two houses. Neighbours are objecting to this scheme.
2 Dornie Road Demolition of existing dwelling and erection of two houses with garaging. Currently this scheme is supported by neighbours.
12 De Mauley Road Demolish existing semi-detached dwellings and erect two houses with garaging. Currently there are no objections.
6 Newton Road Demolition of existing building and erect semi-detached dwellings. Continued neighbourhood objections.
14 Pinewood Road Partial demolition of building and construction of two-storey rear extension to convert to six apartments and semi-detached house.
Continued objections to scheme as the extension is considerably larger to that originally proposed. This property is no longer being used as an HMO.
12 Pinewood Road The Chairman has seen a very strange bin store which can be seen from the road. This is a conservation area. The original plan was to have the bin store somewhere else, but it was moved and an amended plan was put in. This was unnoticed by the Council and the Chairman believes there Is going to be a review of this.
Decisions.
1 Beaumont Road Demolition of existing building and construction of three detached houses. Grant
11 Leicester Road Erect two four bedroom detached houses. Grant
A member brought up the subject of ‘land banking’.
TS replied that the Government is now proposing that if Planning Permission has been given and building has not begun after two years the Planning Permission will be withdrawn. He believes that there are eight brown field sites in Poole that do not have any Planning Permission and currently there is nothing that can be done about this, as the Council do not have sufficient funds to carry out compulsory purchase.
Canford Cliffs Promenade Shelter
This is currently being used by the beach lifeguards as a store. Behind this shelter are public toilets and to one side is a beach café/kiosk. It is proposed that this is developed as a restaurant, extra beach huts are built on top and the kiosk is demolished.
The Chairman asked for comments on this plan.
The first comment was that the only access to this site was down a chine (which isn’t lit) and there is no car parking.
RP asked if a financial plan has been carried out by the Council to ascertain that this is viable. RA asked who would carry out the development; the Council or a developer?
TS proposed that the Council be asked formally for their financial analysis of all the building costs and revenue to see if this is viable.
JS said that he would send a copy of the minutes of the Beach Hut Association’s AGM to the Chairman in order that he can see exactly what is proposed for the beach area. For instance, the promenade will be closed between Canford Cliffs and Flaghead Chines from September 4, 2017, whilst the work is being carried out.
Accounts
The Chairman and Vice Chairman had a meeting with the Treasurer and have made some proposals for next year’s budget to be agreed by the Executive and agreed at the AGM. The annual accounts are ready to be signed off.
Any other business
The Chairman explained that he had been invited to meetings with Mandy Payne from the council who set up meetings with residents and traders to improve Canford Cliffs Village Some positive ideas have been put forward at the meetings which are now carrying on since MP left the council.
Tesco are putting in plans for the four empty shops and will be moving in when planning goes through. At our AGM we shall have a presentation from Steph Stevenson from HNB the hairdressers in Canford Cliffs who is involved in the working party. RA suggested that BPCCRA could give a donation to the Traders to help with any plans they have.
The Chairman reminded the meeting that the Neighbourhood Watch AGM will be held on Saturday February 11, at Canford Cliffs Village Hall.
Planning Enforcement
JS reported that the Council proposes to save money by merging Planning Enforcement with the Enforcement sections of Environmental & Consumer Protection Services & Transportation Services.
Planning Enforcement is not a Statutory requirement but Poole has a dedicated Planning Enforcement team which was formed just over 10 years ago, and a Planning Enforcement policy. JS proposed a resolution that members do not wish to see any further diminution of the Planning Enforcement team. This was unanimously approved by a show of hands.
Spring Magazine
The deadline for the Spring Magazine is the first week of March, and copy for the advertising the end of the first week of March.
RA reported that advertising for the magazine is sold out and income from the advertising is £2,000 for the Spring Magazine. It is hoped that Tesco will take up advertising in the future.
NHS
TS appealed to members to respond to the reorganisation of Dorset NHS which has some worrying features, such as the closing of the Poole Hospital A & E, stroke and heart attack units, and moving them to Bournemouth Hospital.
Please see the website www.dorsetsvision.nhs.uk or e mail to ask for copies of the brochure involve@dorsetccg.nhs.uk or telephone 01202 541946.
The deadline for response to the Consultation is February 28, 2017.
The number of mental health beds at St. Anne’s Hospital, Canford Cliffs is increased from 67 to 94.
TS’s main concern is whether there is adequate funding for the Dorset changes, considering the current crisis in the NHS.
Fly Tipping
Jan Wilde wished to point out that the McCarthy & Stone site on Tower Road is now being used for fly tipping, since the hoardings blocking the site have disintegrated with time. The Chairman said that he would contact McCarthy & Stone to let them know and ask if it is their responsibility or the Council.
The meeting closed at 8.40pm.