Branksome Park Minutes August 11th 2010






  • Terry Stewart President
  • John Sprackling Chairman
  • Wayne Hancock Vice-Chairman
  • Carol Parkin Secretary/Minutes Secretary
  • Michael Bond Membership Secretary
  • Stan Alfert Data Protection Officer
  • Cllr Mrs Carole Deas Ward Councillor
  • Cllr Mrs May Haines Ward Councillor
  • Cllr Neil Sorton Ward Councillor

Approx 15 Members/Wardens


JS welcomed the three Ward Councillors and all those present.

Apologies: Apologies received from Bob & Phyllis Young & Henry Fielden


Accuracy: JS said that he would sign the Minutes as a true and accurate record of the meeting

held on 21 JULY 2010.


Poole Pottery/Old Orchard/Quay Thistle Hotel sites update: JS reported…

1. Quayside (former Dolphin Quays) development – No new developments

2. Poole Pottery factory buildings in Sopers Lane – ditto

3. Former Poole Pottery & Swan Inn site – ditto

4. Quay Thistle Hotel site – ditto

5. Old Orchard House. 39-61 High Street – ditto

6. Land at West Quay Road

(Mixed use regeneration and new public quayside to include; the demolition of a listed gate post and all existing buildings on site; the redevelopment of the site with 440 residential units provided in six apartment blocks with basement parking and courtyard)

– TS invited members to access the BoP Planning Application website to look at the artist’s impressions of the proposed development of this site, next to the lifting bridge. TS said that It is similar to the proposed ugly design for the Quay Thistle Hotel site; square, hard, flat roofed, angular with a tall 12 storey block next to the bridge. TS asked if this is compatible with Poole’s adjacent ‘old town’.

Chairman’s note: The closing date for comments on this application has been confirmed as 3rd September.

Planning Enforcement, TPOs/Tree replacements – update: JS reported…

17 Over Links Drive (Application to demolish existing and erect 2 detached houses granted on 31/01/08 but number of conditions should have been complied with before this development commenced) – No new developments.

19 Mornish Road (Tree replacement) – ditto

55 Canford Cliffs Road (Removal of the gates, railings, fence and hedge, and the erection of a low stone wall with planting behind) – ditto

15A Westminster Road (Erection of railings over 1 metre high partly along the frontage of 15aWestminster Road, being adjacent to a highway. The boundary treatment then changes to a double close boarded fence over 1 metre high which continues along the frontage of Westminster Road,being adjacent to a highway and then turns South-West and continues down the boundary with Dalkeith Road being also adjacent to a highway)– ditto

2 Compton Avenue & 93 Lilliput Road (Boundary treatment) – ditto

Community Working Group (CWG) :

Report from last meeting: Roy Pointer reported on matters that had been discussed at the CWG meeting on 28/07/10, in which members may be interested. RP feels that the Assn. should encourage everybody to make representations on the West Quays development as Stephen Thorne says that, in the case of the West Quay Marina site he only had two letters about this. TS pointed out that the Assn. is quite remote from this site, and therefore it seems that people in this area may have no interest.

There will be a presentation from the Council to the CWG at its next meeting on the changes to Planning Regulations which have come forward from the Government, and RP suggested that whoever does the presentation should be invited to our Assn. meeting as this group may be interested. This is likely to come out sometime in the Autumn. Consultation on the Site Specific Allocations and Development Management Policies (which will replace the majority of current ‘saved’ policies in the Poole Local Plan First Alteration) and has now commenced and details are available on the BoP website

JS said that Bill Gordon who is managing the consultation has offered to meet representatives of the Assn shortly after the commencement of the consultation period. The consultation extends to

the 1st October. Members living within in the Avenue Conservation Area have some strong views about making sure that the policies which are in the current plan are saved. JS invited Martin Heath to this meeting.

There is a new initiative called the Community Engagement Forum which gives the opportunity for developers to consult with local communities before planning applications are lodged, and RPasked JS to suggest to Stephen Thorne that developers of the land at West Quay Road might beinvited to seek local opinions about this development by using the format as a ‘pilot’.

The next Newsletter from the CWG is due out shortly and RP said that it will include a piece on the role and constituency of the CWG. It was important to think about succession well before the Group is reviewed in the March next year. JS was hoping to circulate this with the Minutes.

The South East Dorset Transport Strategy (Third Local Transport Plan 2011 – 2016) – Further consultation on the recommended transport strategy and the associated implementation programme will take place in September 2010. TS said that he is registered as a stakeholder?

Assn members were encouraged to engage since most of the options affect Branksome Park area.

TS pointed out that as well as the Site Specific consultation there is also a consultation on Poole’s Infrastructure Development Plan Documents and responses to this have to be in by October 9.

The Community Working Group minutes are now available on the website page;

and the next Planning and Regeneration Newsletter will be uploaded onto the website on Monday 16 August. Please click on the link below;

Poole Beaches and Coastal Defences:

Shoreline Management Plan – RP reported that the Poole Bay, Poole Harbour and Wareham Flood and Coastal Erosion Risk Management Strategy portion looked at flood risk and erosion between Hengistbury Head and Durlston Head. There is now another document – The Strategic Environmental Assessment. This takes the Shoreline, Management Plan and looks at it from an environmental point of view. There is a copy of the document on the web and to register an interest, e-mail or write to Steve Rendell, Environment Agency,Manley House, Kestrel Way, Exeter, EX2 7LQ..

Council Tax 2010/11 & Council’s Budget Monitoring report: William Mutlow reported that there as no new Council Budget Monitoring report at the moment but he reported that generally the Council is endeavouring to find various cuts and these need to be sustainable in future years. The

budget will have to be rebalanced for this year to find these cuts. No detailed information has been published yet, but we expect to see a lot more over the coming months.

TS reported that he had had a meeting with the Leader of the Council, Cllr Dr Brian Leverett, who is hoping to set up a meeting for Residents’ Assn. representatives with himself, John McBride and Liz Wilkinson, the Head of Financial Services, towards the end of September, when

representatives will be able to comment on options the Council has for cutting £29M from the Medium Term Financial Plan over the next four years.

JS reported that this is a great improvement over the usual procedure, where Residents’ Assns are presented with the budget in February, when it was all ‘cut and dried’.

Poole Partnership: No new developments.

Public Rights of Way:

Westminster Road end of Dalkeith Road – Meeting with Public Rights of Way Officer and local

residents took place on 26/07/10 – the officer needs more information.

Buccleuch Road to Lakeside Road – No new developments.

Bessborough Road – ditto

Footpath 82 Spur – ditto

Possible Charitable Status for Assn: J S has still to set up a small Sub-Committee to look at this.

Canford Cliffs Play Area/Pinecliff Gardens (Sunken garden)

Canford Cliffs Play Area Hazel Clifton reported that Canford Cliffs project should start in the Autumn.

Pinecliff Gardens (Sunken garden) CD reported that she, WH and Daphne Howell had met with Simon Legg from Leisure Services and he indicated that the Council is willing to let Canford Cliffs residents take over the management of the ‘Sunken garden’, as there is no funding for plants. We shall be the first area in the Borough to be granted a ‘Green Pennant’. This will incur a cost to the Assn of approx £200 (per annum) for an insurance premium to cover injuries to any of the residents working on the garden. The Council is willing to support this venture in taking away rubbish etc., and there will probably be a small annual charge i.e. a ‘peppercorn’ rent. CD said that she had had very positive feedback from residents and hopefully the garden will be brought back to how it used to be a few years ago, instead of the sorry state that it is in now.

WH stated that he had already e-mailed the documentation to JS and asked if there were any thoughts on funding of plants. CD said that she hoped that the funding the Assn. were going to provide to the Council for this project, were the Council to go ahead, would still be available. She also suggested that maybe local businesses would be willing to sponsor some of the costs. Carol thinks that this is a really good idea and will help promote some ‘community spirit’. Flat dwellers, for instance, with no gardens of their own to work on should welcome the opportunity to meet other people down at the garden. SA thought this is a marvellous idea but it will undoubtedly incur ongoing costs and there are insurance implications if we take over the lease. He suggested that there needs to be a Steering Committee from the Assn. as the project won’t run itself. JS asked WH would he be prepared to project manage this, and he agreed. There was a show of hands to see if this project should be carried forward. It was agreed that it would be.

Use of Assn’s Capital Reserve – No new developments.

Public Liability Insurance (PLI) – JS is pursuing.

Poole Council’s Business Transformation/Efficiency Review Programme –

MH confirmed that an updated report will be presented to the Council Efficiency and Effectiveness Overview and Scrutiny Committee meeting until February 2011.

Funding for Westbourne Medical Centre and the NHS Dental Practice in Westbourne –

Awaiting further communication next month from Anne Swan, Interim Chief Executive of NHS Bournemouth and Poole, as promised in Angela Schofield, Chairman, Bournemouth and Poole Teaching Primary Care Trust letter dated 12/07/10.

Overhanging Hedge at Kenilworth Court, 3 Western Road –

MH reported that the Council had sent a confirmation letter to Kenilworth Court that this problem has to be dealt with before the end

of the year and the managing agent will comply with this.

Parking in Ravine Road

– MH reported that the Mazda car showroom on the corner of Haven and Ravine Roads are allowed to have delivery of cars from a transporter, but that showroom cars are not allowed to park there as they currently do. The Council have agreed to ask the Traffic Wardens to visit this area regularly to see what the showroom actually does. So she advises us to ‘watch this space’.


In the absence of Keith Alcroft, JS reported that no letters of objection had sent on behalf of the Association since the last meeting. Roland Cunnell expressed the view that he thought the Assn might be more pro-active in relation to planning applications. RC is particularly concerned about

Land adj 1 Over Links Drive (Sever land and erect a new detached house (Revised Scheme)

– Application refused by Planning Committee on 10/12/09 is subject of a ‘Written Representations’ appeal (APP/Q1255/A/10/2120940). The ‘Start date’ for this appeal was 27/01/10 but the site visit has yet to be arranged.

RC is also concerned about the LPAs apparent lack of action at

17 Over Links Drive (Demolish existing and erect 2 detached houses)


Chairman’s note: There is a letter from Greener Homes Ltd dated 06/08/10 posted on the BoP Planning Application website.

8 Buccleuch Road – CD reported that she had had a meeting, at his request, with a developer who wants to build a chalet bungalow on the land at this site, and asked for the support of the Ward Councillors.

SA said that he knows the site well and thinks that applications have been rejected in the past as the site is slightly less than the minimum size, although things have now changed. The site also contains many trees that have Preservation Orders on them and SA feels it would be impossible to

build on the site without felling trees. MH reported that this road was visited on the last Ward Walk. The land in question does not only have a TPO on it, but there is in fact a Woodland Preservation Order. She will alert the Planning Department to keep an eye on this plot as it is so easy to fell the trees and pay the fine.

NS said that he would be very worried about creating a precedent on this controversial site by supporting an application. JS was of the view that the Assn. should just ‘sit on the fence’. However, SA proposed that theAssn. should take the stance that this is a site not to be developed. JS asked for a show of hands that the Assn. would oppose any development plans for 8 Buccleuch Road. This was agreed.

Other current planning issues

Land at 5 Brackenhill (Sever land and erect a three bed detached single storey dwelling, with attached single garage at lower level)– Application refused on 22/07/10.

4 Lawrence Drive (Demolish existing buildings and erect 1 block of 8 apartments with assoc parking) – Application refused on 05/03/10 is now the subject of an appeal Hearing (APP/Q1255/A/10/2128771) at 10.00an on 28/09/10.

The Cottage, Kingsgate, 7 The Avenue (a) Demolish existing and erect a block of 5 apartments and associated garages) – Application was refused by Planning Committee on 25/03/10 but subject to ‘Written representations’ appeal (APP/Q1255/A/10/2126736) Final date for statements & representations was 02/06/10.

(b) Erect a detached house on land adjacent to The Cottage and erect detached garage to The Cottage. – Application registered on 01/06/10.

11 Westminster Road (Demolition of the existing building and construction of three detached houses with associated parking and access. (revised scheme – Application refused on 17/05/10 is now the subject of a appeal Hearing (APP/Q1255/A/10/2129589) at 10.00 on 12/10/10

24 Ravine Road (Demolish existing dwelling and erect replacement dwelling with integral garaging. (Revised scheme) Amended plans received 08/12/09 and 25/01/10) – Application refused under delegated authority on 29/01/10 is now the subject of appeal (APP/Q1255/A/10/2122302) to be determined by Written Representations. Site visit fixed for 10.00 on 17/08/10.

2 Crawshaw Road (Demolish existing dwelling and erect x 2 detached dwellings with on site parking. (Revised Scheme) – Application registered 25/05/10. Amended plans lodged on 14/07/10.

Land adj 1 Over Links Drive (Sever land and erect a new detached house (Revised Scheme) – Application refused by Planning Committee on 10/12/09 is subject of a ‘Written Representations’ appeal (APP/Q1255/A/10/2120940) The date for final comments was 31/03/10.

6 Durrant Road (a) Demolish existing dwelling and erect x2 detached dwellings. (Revised Scheme) As amended by plans received 01/10/09) -Application refused under delegated authority on 11/12/09, now the subject of Written Representations appeals (APP/Q1255/A/10/2121180). Site inspection which was scheduled to take place at 11.00 on 17 August 2010 has been cancelled due to a request for postponement.

(b) Demolish existing dwelling and erect 2 No semi-detached dwellings with attached garages (Revised Scheme) – Application refused by Planning Committee on 08/07/10.

Canford Cliffs, Promenade 2 (a) Construction of 18 new beach huts – Application No: 08/24380/005/F &(b) Conservation Area application to demolish 8 beach huts (nos 99-106) adjacent to Canford Cliffs Chine.

Application No: 08/24380/007/U The applications were registered as long ago as 22/01/08 &13/02/08 respectively. MH will keep the Assn advised of any further developments.

4-6 Compton Avenue (Non material amendment of planning permission 06/12687/005/F to extend basement parking, an additional staircase, two roof lights, convert half gable window to full height) – Application granted on.26/07/10.

8 Shore Road – BPCCRA will continue to monitor possible tree work application. An entrance has been created on the Haven Road side of this property. This property is up for sale at is ‘offers’ in excess of £2m.

60A Kings Avenue (Tree Replacement Notices to replant 3 Scots Pines) –

Confirmation awaited that the Council’s Arboriculturist visited both 60 and 60a to check tree issues and that letters sent to the owners requesting planting under Treework/Planning conditions.


Chairman’s Note:

I meant to report at the meeting that the total funds as at 31 July amounted to £36,221.47.


Parkstone Children’s Centre & Alexandra Park Lodge – JS said that he thought it unreasonablethat this application was listed for determination at next Thursday’s Planning Committee meeting. The yellow site notice is dated 09/08/10 with comments to be lodged by 28/08/10. MH will investigate.

Chairman’s note:

I am now informed that the planning application will be withdrawn from the Planning Committee on 19 August 2010 and is likely to be rescheduled for the meeting on 9 September 2010.

Brian Cox – JS reported that Brian Cox’ death notice appears in today’s Daily Echo. Brian was the former Chairman of the Canford Cliffs Land Society. His Funeral Service is to be held at All Saints’ Church, Branksome Park, Poole on Monday 23rd August at 2pm.

BPCCRA Autumn 2010 magazine – JS asked for material for the magazine by the end of this month.

Policy for financially supporting neighbour objections to Planning Applications NS reminded JS that this matter has yet to resolved. It was agreed that this would be discussed at the Assn’s next meeting.

Information messages from Dorset Police, distributed by Neighbourhood Watch – JS said that he had recently received two messages which he thought would be of interest to members and would

include these in the Minutes.

1. Dorset Police have received a large numbers of calls from members of the public across the County advising them of suspicious telephone calls they have received. The callers have been asking occupants questions about their home security and what type of property they live in. A

large number of them have also been asked for their age and on some occasions they have been asked for bank details and offered alarm systems for sale. The callers appear to be targeting older residents. Please do not give out personal details to

callers over the phone. Do not accept offers of alarm fitting over the phone. If you wish to purchase an alarm, wherever possible seek personal recommendations. Some companies operate high pressure selling tactics so do not be bullied into allowing them to visit you at home.

If you would like security advice please contact your local Safer Neighbourhood team.

2. Dorset Police would like to advice you of a scam two Dorset residents have reported to Trading Standards. Letters or calls are received from persons claiming to be calling on behalf of SKY offering satellite system insurance. Residents are asked for banking details and direct debits amounts are then taken monthly from their accounts. The telephone number provided by the caller and the insurance policies do not exist. If you receive a call please check the callers’ identity by asking for verification of the company for whom they work before agreeing to anything over the phone.

Do not give out personal banking details over the phone; if they are legitimate they should already have your details on record.

Please pass this information on to friends and neighbours. Thank you

The meeting closed at 8.30pm.

Date of next Meeting : Wednesday 8 September 2010 in the Main Hall at Branksome St

Aldhelm’s Parish Centre (Entrance via Lindsay Road)